November 2nd, 2007
Rob Liefeld can’t draw feet
Around the mid 90’s, Poncho was big into Image Comics. I read more than my fair share of them, Youngblood, Spawn, Savage Dragon etc. They were enjoyable reads but after a while my main reason for getting my paws on any Image title was to see if Rob Liefeld had any work in it. I was already well aware of his weird proportions, stiff composition and ludicrous plagarism but it took Poncho to point this out to me:
Rob Liefeld can’t draw feet.
It soon became an obsession, going through all the back issues , sometimes laughing, sometimes in awe of his ability to structure a frame or a page layout so that the feet are truncated or obscured.There was one classic page where Cable is standing, and everything looks good till your eyes reach his feet where a German Shepherd conveniently sits, a feet blocking German Shepherd. Here’s exhibit 1. Check these, my favourite one is the X-Force cover with Juggernaut, that dodgy looking cloud of yellow smoke rids the artist of any annoying forshortening.
And when he HAD to draw feet, they usually looked like this……….
And his figure drawing sometimes threw away all the rules and invented new ones. Check out the scale of these characters standing beside each other, and that Captain America is just silly looking!
But I honestly admire him. For somebody to reach such heights in any field with an obvious flaw should be admired. And the further I rank in the biz the more I respect him. Yeah, he’s a hack but so am I. If I waited until I was 100% competent before getting into comics, my first published work would be out in 2056. Plus in the recent ‘Liefeld attacks Alan Moore’ scandal I take his side in alot of points. That’s for another day.
So hate Liefeld if you want. But he’s sleeping sound tonight while you shuffle around the comic shops like the scrud that you are, talking about Kevin Smith and wearing some lame t-shirt, pulling the underwear slying out from the crack of your arse and when you get home you sniff your finger and it still smells. And this makes you happy.
November 2nd, 2007 at 5:24 pm
Jayzuz, that Capt America’s way off… he doesnt even have a left shoulder. Incidentally, if you cover his stomach area, it looks like he’s got tits. Unusually large ones.
November 2nd, 2007 at 6:35 pm
wasn`t this already a blog back in the olden days of clamnuts?
image artists all have the manga/american style that has loads of flaws but mainly because they were using a cartoony style to draw realistic characters.well apart from savage dragon i suppose…
heroes reborn was just a pile of shite regardless of the artist
plus he was knockin out mutiple comics each month so sure he cut some corners(haven`t we all?)and everthing except the feet is usally gold(well apart from the captain america with tits bigger than a small child…)
well that`s me all geeked out,faggot
luke
November 2nd, 2007 at 8:32 pm
If working in american taught me anything it was that it does pay to have your head shoved up your own arse - i say fair fucks to him for getting work - I don’t like his work but can’t fault the guy for doing and more importantly getting paid for it
November 3rd, 2007 at 4:23 am
As you say *smack* what a doozie, was thinking of this the other day because i wanted to a post on the preponderance of the sole of batman’s booties (but i got drunk instead) and thinking i must include a link to ole robbie liefields foot a phobia, cheers dude, will probably do the post tomorrow…unless i get drunk….
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Oh dear god.
You’re seriously sticking up for Rob “That uniform could use some more pouches, and your boobs aren’t big enough until they’re the size of my head” Liefeld?
It’s impressive that the guy has managed to forge a career for himself, and he’s obviously in touch with what a segment of the market looks for out of their comics. But his art is shockingly bad - not stylised, just *bad*. He can’t draw feet, his proportions are too inconsistent, and basic physiology escapes him - he’s a prime offender in the scans_daily “nothing works that way” pantheon of gammy artists.
There again, if people want to buy it, let ‘em.
As for his attack on Alan Moore….I can see what he means about Moore acting the prima donna and I imagine that it can be quite hard to work with someone like that, but to paraphrase someone else : In the battle of Liefeld vs Moore, one of the two has produced medium-defining works that will be loved and enjoyed for decades after their creator shuffles off this mortal coil. The other is Rob Liefeld.
November 3rd, 2007 at 10:10 pm
As a matter of fact football players have got that sort of feet, at least most of them do.
Perhaps all the characters drawn by Liefeld had the common passion of playing football as well as being superheroes..
Cheerz
November 4th, 2007 at 1:00 am
sorry
lads, it has to be said. You cant comment on rob liefields feet drawing ability unless your as good as the rest o his anatomy skills, and kyle? I woulda listened to ya bud but your strip is shit compared to liefield. Sorry lads but reality check blah blah etc!!!!!
We’re all hyenas when it comes to elephants.
November 5th, 2007 at 11:25 am
Yeah, well Bob can’t draw anything, never-mind feet. Lets all turn our attention to how crap Bob is. Leave poor Mr. Liefeld alone.
November 5th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
ZING!! Exactly Dec, it should be noticed that I can’t actually draw that well and yet have managed to pass myself off. Sort of like smashing a round peg into a square hole.
Ah now Uiscebot, no biting on clamnuts.com, this is a peaceful website, YOU CUNT! You fucking poem writing, pickle juice drinking, pigeon fancying piece of gick. Of course we can comment on people more talented than us, I slag the shit out most music but cant sing or play diddley.
Yeah I re-posted it because I noticed alot of incoming links to it and it wasn’t there.
November 5th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Point taken Bob, YOU CUNT!! , but without recognising that Liefiled is fucking deadly as well as having his ‘foot problem’ It’s just ankle biting you’re at.
And leave the poem writing out of it, we all have our problems.
November 5th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
lemme retract that ‘fucking deadly’ in my last post. I should have said ‘very succesful’
November 6th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
Neh heh heh! Its a classic. Every medium needs a Liefeld and although I too would spit fanboy venom, I’ve come around to ‘apprecate’ him. He really is remarkable, his name alone will sell a comic, probably for the wrong reasons.
So where do you stand on the Liefeld Alan Moore debate? Bob’s opinion is actually valid on this because him and Alan Moore are the only 2000ad writers to get their name in the title as far as I know, YOU CUNT
November 7th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
Rant On
My list of comic book jerks:
Liefelf,
McFarlane,
Peter David (fat bastard)
and Stan Lee -’Hello true believers’- what an absolute paedo. And giving himself cameos in all the Marvel flics to?!!! ARGGGHHH!!!!
Rant off.
November 7th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Aw man, Stan Lee makes it into the next Hate list with that shit. He’s a joke. Yep Mc Farlane is equally patchy but you have to give him props for becoming a zillionaire off comics, he only started drawing when he was in his late teens which I always found weird, not like the near vocational early habits of other artists.
Stewbie, neh, I’ll have to re-read the article again before commenting. But yeah, my opinion should be listened to.
November 7th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
ahh come on now…
stan lee?
you`re taking the piss i assume?
yeah he`s a selfpromoter but let him,he`s deserved it.
well i suppose the moral of my fanboy bitchings is,if you`re going to shoot off on someone,maybe set you`re sights a little lower.
and is if stan lee cares what we think anyway…
November 7th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
as if Liefeld cares what we think - feck if he did, he’d stop bloody drawing.
Stan Lee is fair game as far as I’m concenered and he has no one to balame but himself - he may be a selfpromoter but he has done it an the expense of much more talented people. Just like Disney he saw a market and then saw talented artists he could use and then not credit.
Ask anyone who actually works for DC or Marvel today about Stan Lee - the least you’ll get is an eye roll and head shake but more then likely you’ll get a 30 mins rant with the names Kirby and Ditko muttered a number of times.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:13 am
Fuck Stan Lee in the ear.
November 8th, 2007 at 9:27 am
Yup- fuck that wrinkly old fucker till hes dead. I remember that Bullpen thing he used to write in some of the marvel comics back in the 90s. There was one where he went on about being best mates with Bob Kane an all that- I thought oh thats nice.
Years later I read an interview with some old EC artist who basically laid into lee, the bull shit he spouts and how he would pretend how every1 was best mates when really they were bitter cocks who despised one another.
I mean does any one remember ‘Marvel Action Hour’?!!?!?! Jesus- some1 put that fucker in the ground!!!!!!!!!!
Wrinkliest throat EVER.
November 8th, 2007 at 10:33 am
That tickled me. One word: PUSSEY.
I tell everyone to read PUSSEY by Daniel Clowes to get a handle on why I hate comics. It’s brilliant. Lee gets a roasting. Liefeld gets it. Everyone gets it and it’s like it just written for me, somebody who hates what they love
November 8th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
yeah i suppose fuck stan lee;he`s a millionaire!
fuck `im good!
haven`t read that clowes one(have you read “dave boring” by him?)
November 8th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
How can someone not draw feet? It makes no sense. Did he just start one day. get em wrong and go ‘fuck it’?
Those madowtofit blue elephant feet made me laugh.